Tranfer experiences with Pro8mm

[B.K.]

Hi All,

I know this has probably been discussed before, but I wanted to ask what the general experience has been in using Pro8mm to do telecine?

Recently, I used them on two occasions and was really disappointed with the results the second time.

[shralp]

I haven't used them because I never hear anything good about ANY aspects of that place. If you're spending that kind of cash to xfer then check out Flying Spot Film Transfer in Seattle. http://www.fsft.com

Less budget? Try Roger Evans Sniper system in Texas. http://www.moviestuff.tv

Good Luck

[Mitch Perkins]

Hi All,

I know this has probably been discussed before, but I wanted to ask what the general experience has been in using Pro8mm to do telecine?

Recently, I used them on two occasions and was really disappointed with the results the second time.

If in Canada, why not try -

http://www.exclusivefilm.net/

I worked there about 20 years ago, when Pro8mm was called Super8 Sound.
Guess what? They were *nasty pricks* back then, too.
OTOH, Marg and Kevin at Exclusive are extremely personable human beings. (It's telecine, not scanned)

Mitch

[audadvnc]

I've had good results at Cinesound in Minneapolis:

http://www.cinesound.net/telecine.html

their Marconi line array scanning telecine handles S8, 16, and 35. They also have a B&H film chain for regular 8 that produces clean clear images.

[woods01]

If in Canada, why not try -

http://www.exclusivefilm.net/

Ahhhh, I love websites that don't state such important information such
as prices.

[paul]

If in Canada, why not try -

http://www.exclusivefilm.net/

Ahhhh, I love websites that don't state such important information such
as prices.

...or what methods they use..

[Mitch Perkins]

If in Canada, why not try -

http://www.exclusivefilm.net/

Ahhhh, I love websites that don't state such important information such
as prices.

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[audadvnc]

Wow, they use strange methods up there in Kanuckistan. Do they lube the film for free?

[Mitch Perkins]

Wow, they use strange methods up there in Kanuckistan. Do they lube the film for free?

I have translated dad's question into it's proper international language.

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[B.K.]

So what telecine place is the most commonly used for S8mm in the US?

From all indications it would be Pro8mm, but I had this problem where the colors would shift mid-shot. When I suggested this was a timing error they blamed my camera. I then asked how a S8 camera would be able to control color temp and they came up with this explanation of the 85 popping in randomly...

Anyone else hear this response? All I know is that I shot V2/18 and it came back looking horribly grainy with color shifts.

Any reccomendations for a place that does a proper rank transfer of S8, other than Pro8mm?

[Alex]

Color shifts can be caused by scene to scene color correction gone awry, and it can be caused by processing errors or from using very outdated film.

Scene to Scene Color correction requires the film transfer colorist to go through the film first and set up a color correction adjustment whenever a scene change requires it, these adjustments are memorized by the computer. (The first time through the colorist can speed up the film once the settings are inputed to save the client transfer time/money).

The colorist then rewinds the film to the beginning and the color changes they programmed into their computer are automatically activated the second time the film goes through the film transfer equipment. Should the timing memory be off (it happens), it would indeed suddenly shift in the middle of a scene rather than when the new scene appears.

Your color shifts could also be caused by the processing or using very outdated film. I've seen outdated film do this, the exposure and density suddenly changed by over a stop, IN ONE FRAME, right in the middle of a scene, (way too fast to be done by hand).

[ccortez]

Any reccomendations for a place that does a proper rank transfer of S8, other than Pro8mm?

Flying Spot Film Transfer
http://www.fsft.com

[Dre]

Any reccomendations for a place that does a proper rank transfer of S8, other than Pro8mm?

Flying Spot Film Transfer
http://www.fsft.com

I agree, Flying Spot Film Transfer is the best places for Super 8 transfer. Just check out their Super 8 Demo, It's amazing! I also heard they can now do wide8, fantastic news!

[alan doyle]

when your talking about 12 year old telecine machines...like anything mechanical..money needs to be spent on servicing..
all post companies in london have in house engineers..
most are servicing fairly new gear not 12 year old relics..
does anybody believe pro 8 has an in house team..
i am not been funny,but anybody that has seen the pro 8 showreel,will know what quality to expect..
sometimes in life, you pay extras bucks for quality,not with this company..
i am not really sure what exactly you are paying for..

[Number6]

Nobody here has mentioned Yale Labs--

Don't know their web site, but their phone number is 1-800-955-Yale. They charge $16.00 per roll for the 500T, but that inclules process and prep of the negative. (The place Flying spot uses, Forde Motion, said $8.00 but it wasn't clear if that was just the negative, before making a print.)

They also do everything in-house, so there is no mailing off to another place, and that frankly makes me more comfortable. If I'm paying over $300 to get my stuff transfered I want as few changes of venue as possible.

'course, my budget may limit me to moviestuff or this place:

http://www.creativevideoscrapbooking.com/

They certainly sound like moviestuff (they have a 3ccd camera) but I can't pry much technical info out of them.