I always had a love/hate relationship with E64T. Loved the grain sometimes. Hated it others. Often both within the same scene. I was using a Nautica.
Then I saw some footage shot in a Kodak M4 which I think overexposed E64T automatically by 2/3. It looked great. Just what I needed. I loved the washed out look. And I own an M4. Almost immediately after, however, Kodak withdrew E64. I have 1 cart left.
I search ebay now and then to see if any gets put up but no. Not in UK anyway. So, I'm wondering what the situation is with E100D. Can I get the same/similar washed out look? How do I overexpose by 2/3 in the M4?
Kodak M4, E64T and E100D
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Re: Kodak M4, E64T and E100D
If you put E100D in without any adjustments, it will expose as 64D, which is a 2/3 stop overexposure. If you want to do a test of regular exposure vs. 2/3 stop over, all you have to do is insert and remove the tungsten filter key. The key moves the shade over the exposure meter whether or not the 85 filter is in place.
Re: Kodak M4, E64T and E100D
Nick,
Thanks. I didn't know E100D will overexpose 2/3 automatically. I've not used it before. I'll try some out and see how it looks.
I didn't quite grasp your last bit. If I put the key in [which I have but have never used] it'll expose correctly? What about color casts?
Thanks. I didn't know E100D will overexpose 2/3 automatically. I've not used it before. I'll try some out and see how it looks.
I didn't quite grasp your last bit. If I put the key in [which I have but have never used] it'll expose correctly? What about color casts?
Re: Kodak M4, E64T and E100D
Yes, it will expose correctly. When the key is inserted with a tungsten film, it swings the filter out of the way and moves a shade away from the meter to allow for the speed increase. E100D does not have a tungsten notch, so it will automatically swing the filter out of the way when the cart is inserted. However, when the key is inserted, it still moves the shade to allow for the higher speed.mondo777 wrote:I didn't quite grasp your last bit. If I put the key in [which I have but have never used] it'll expose correctly? What about color casts?
Re: Kodak M4, E64T and E100D
Nick,
Thanks. I understand now. I'll try a mix of 2/3 over and proper exposed just to see how it looks. I'm not a fan of E100D on what I've see online. But the 2/3 over is an interesting experiment, I think.
Thanks. I understand now. I'll try a mix of 2/3 over and proper exposed just to see how it looks. I'm not a fan of E100D on what I've see online. But the 2/3 over is an interesting experiment, I think.
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Re: Kodak M4, E64T and E100D
Forget what you see online. In order to experience 100D at it's best you need to see it projected. Also overexposing this stock really helps with the colors. Also I recommend a neutral density filter to help cut down on the light. On cloudy days of course the ND filter should not be needed. But really opening up the exposure by 1 f-stop and the use of #4 ND filter gave me excellent results. I used a Minolta Autopak 8 D6 for filming. This camera does not recognize the stock correctly so compensation was needed. But I would assume that overexposing 100D would work with any Super 8 cam.
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Re: Kodak M4, E64T and E100D
I forgot to add that overexposing 100D results in more natural skin tones and all around exposure looks great! Many people have complained about red looking skin tones which would be the result of underexposure. Also the grain structure is far superior to 64T when projected. There is none of that annoying dancing grain that was common with 64T depending on how it was used. Although I found 64T exposed in bright light at close range was quite nice, but really nothing like 100D. Kodak did a great thing by releasing 100D in the Super 8 cartridge.