Kodachrome expired in mid 80's
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Kodachrome expired in mid 80's
Will I get acceptable results with Kodachrome 40 film from the mid 80's that is still sealed in the foil wrapper?
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It can be quite a headache to a film to tape transfer facility if you send them film that has been developed well past the due date unless you are there to approve the job scene by scene.
I wonder what the cost is to keep film in the freezer for 8 years? I guess one could do a total area of the freezer divided by the area the film takes up then multiply that number by the monthly cost.
I bet it adds up.
Robbie, do you expose it normally or do you overexpose by a stop just to be safe because of the age of the film?
I wonder what the cost is to keep film in the freezer for 8 years? I guess one could do a total area of the freezer divided by the area the film takes up then multiply that number by the monthly cost.
I bet it adds up.
Robbie, do you expose it normally or do you overexpose by a stop just to be safe because of the age of the film?
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K40 is a fairly stable stock with time, though it does depend on storage conditions.
I have exposed Kodachrome dated 1977 and got very good results, albeit about 1/2 stop less sensitive than in-date film. I've exposed film that expired in 1988 and found it shifted to the pink/magenta so much that the best I could do was transfer the film to video and make it B&W.
Depends on where it's been stored, and you simply don't know that. Heat and humidity kill film...but you probably don't know how your film has been stored.
If you have several cartridges from the same source the best thing to do is expose one, get it processed and see what the results are like....then you can perhaps adjust your shooting (aperture, filter) for the other rolls to obtain a satisfactory result.
Bottom line is don't use significantly out of date film for an important project.
I sometimes buy up outdated film (especially std 8mm) just to have a cheap play with my cameras.
K40 is a fairly stable stock with time, though it does depend on storage conditions.
I have exposed Kodachrome dated 1977 and got very good results, albeit about 1/2 stop less sensitive than in-date film. I've exposed film that expired in 1988 and found it shifted to the pink/magenta so much that the best I could do was transfer the film to video and make it B&W.
Depends on where it's been stored, and you simply don't know that. Heat and humidity kill film...but you probably don't know how your film has been stored.
If you have several cartridges from the same source the best thing to do is expose one, get it processed and see what the results are like....then you can perhaps adjust your shooting (aperture, filter) for the other rolls to obtain a satisfactory result.
Bottom line is don't use significantly out of date film for an important project.
I sometimes buy up outdated film (especially std 8mm) just to have a cheap play with my cameras.
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agree with angus 50/50 - my experience.
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i bought up 10 rolls of kodachrome 64 expired in '88. interesting results to say the least. I never asked the seller but obviously the film was not frozen or refrigerated all those years. If you want to take a look I posted one of them on my site http://www.vudeja.com/blog/ permlink here http://www.vudeja.com/blog/archives/2004_03.html#000571
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Old Film
Unexposed film is a perishable item. Cold storage will slow the changes that can degrade the image. For fast films, ambient radiation (e.g., cosmic rays, x-ray security inspection) may cause a buildup of fog and increased graininess. Here is information about film storage:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/suppo ... care.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/suppo ... care.shtml
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I have shot K40 from 1982, 86 and 99. The cart from 82' had been stored in room temperature. It came out all pink. However, in the areas of high illumination [in the frame] there were other colors than pink aswell.
If the results will be acceptable all depends on how the films has been stored. If it has been stored cold it might be ok. If stored in room temperature you better overexpose it a stop.
If the results will be acceptable all depends on how the films has been stored. If it has been stored cold it might be ok. If stored in room temperature you better overexpose it a stop.
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Unless film that old was stored frozen in its original sealed packaging, color shifts like that are possible.I have a lot of ektachrome 160 sound film. Some came out green. I'm trying to use a magenta color corecting filter for that.
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I can only speak from my personal experience. I keep all my still film frozen, and I've never encountered a severe color shift because of it. Did you warm up (equilibrate) the film completely before you opened the sealed packaging? Opening very cold film in humid air can cause condensation.
Most Kodak films are shipped and stored (in Kodak warehouses) at 50-55 F.
Most Kodak films are shipped and stored (in Kodak warehouses) at 50-55 F.
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