HELP: developing old super8 film

[Alex_W]

Someone came to me with a pretty awesome story. His parents escaped from the DDR to the BRD some 25 years ago. His dad filmed their escape with his super8 camera. Five of these films had been intercepted by the secret police, but one film has been lying undeveloped in this guys house for all this time.

Now he wants to develope it, but it's a special film, so he doesn't know where to go. Andec already send it back to him.

The specs are:

Orwo Chrom Super8, asa25, ut 15

If anyone knows if there's a reliable lab out there that could still develope this, that would be terrific.

Thanks.

[jpolzfuss]

These are the only two labs that could process Orwo/Svema colour-reversal-film (at least the only two that I know of):

http://www.super8.nl/ - but it's closed at the moment
http://www.kahlfilm.de/

[gianni1]

Cool Cold War story about that flight from DDR, is that East Germany? What state is BRD?

Just today I was searching for a lab to process some old films found in old cameras, and found the website of a lab north of London that claims to process any kind of film. They say they do Super 8.

http://www.processc22.co.uk/

Gianni

[Angus]

I've contacted processc22 before about a couple of unusual still films that have passed into my hands....they've never bothered to reply.

Do Kahl really process old OrwoChrom films?

i'd wager that super 8 Netherlands are the only lab that can do it now.

[Angus]

BRD = BundesRepublic Deutschland


(AKA West Germany)

[John_Pytlak]

Another lab that offers processing of old or foreign films is Rocky Mountain Film Lab:

http://www.rockymountainfilm.com/

http://www.rockymountainfilm.com/process.htm (process listing)

[gianni1]

I rang up process 22 and their answer phone says they can't take your call now, please call later... their five page website says use email... Probably good for disk and 126 films...

I wonder what the mystery formulas are that they use. Last weekend at Elstree Village boot sale I asked a retired Kodak factory line manager (who supervised film production for twenty-some years), and he almost crawled out of his skin when i asked about processing color film in black and white chemstry...

Very different than the statements like what Chris-B says in this thread that "...You can process Kodachrome very easily as black and white, reversal or neg. ..."

viewtopic.php?t=9091&highlight=single+processing

Gianni

[John_Pytlak]

Almost any photographic film that uses silver halide can be processed as a B&W negative (developer-stopbath-fixer-clear-wash) to yield an image. Of course, you lose any color information, and may need to "tweek" the process (e.g, antifoggants, bromide level) depending on the film. Really old films cannot withstand the high developer temperatures of modern processes.

[jpolzfuss]

Cool Cold War story about that flight from DDR, is that East Germany?

Yes, "Deutsche Demokratische Republik" = DDR = German Democratic Republic = GDR = "East Germany"

[jpolzfuss]

Do Kahl really process old OrwoChrom films?

Found on Kahl's German processing webpage:
B&W reversal
4-102 Super 8 Svema (cartridge) EURO 14,00

Colour-Reversal
4-204 Super 8 Orwo, Svema (cartridge) EURO 49,00
4-205 2 x 8 mm Orwo, Foma, Svema (7,5 m-Reel) EURO 39,00
4-206 DS 8 Foma, Svema (7,5 m-Reel) EURO 39,00
4-207 DS 8 Orwo (7,5 m-Reel) EURO 56,00
4-208 16 mm Orwo (20 m-unit) EURO 39,00

Here's the direct link:
http://www.kahlfilm.de/kahlfilm/deutsch ... klung.html

This is what Babelfish thinks about this page ("Kahl" is indeed German for "Bold" but some of the translations are rather weird):
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfis ... klung.html

[mik]

on this site you'll find mail to guy who develops color orwo films :
http://www.fotopraktyk.republika.pl/dane/ka8mm.htm
there are also recipes, but in polish language.

mik.

[Mogzy]

Do Kahl really process old OrwoChrom films?

Found on Kahl's German processing webpage:
B&W reversal
4-102 Super 8 Svema (cartridge) EURO 14,00

Colour-Reversal
4-204 Super 8 Orwo, Svema (cartridge) EURO 49,00
4-205 2 x 8 mm Orwo, Foma, Svema (7,5 m-Reel) EURO 39,00
4-206 DS 8 Foma, Svema (7,5 m-Reel) EURO 39,00
4-207 DS 8 Orwo (7,5 m-Reel) EURO 56,00
4-208 16 mm Orwo (20 m-unit) EURO 39,00

Here's the direct link:
http://www.kahlfilm.de/kahlfilm/deutsch ... klung.html

This is what Babelfish thinks about this page ("Kahl" is indeed German for "Bold" but some of the translations are rather weird):
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfis ... klung.html

Lets hope super8 reversal lab is back up and running soon, Frank is WAY cheaper than Kahl are charging, and I've heard even the standard processing from Kahl is dodgy.

[aj]

Someone came to me with a pretty awesome story. His parents escaped from the DDR to the BRD some 25 years ago. His dad filmed their escape with his super8 camera. Five of these films had been intercepted by the secret police, but one film has been lying undeveloped in this guys house for all this time.

Now he wants to develope it, but it's a special film, so he doesn't know where to go. Andec already send it back to him.

The specs are:

Orwo Chrom Super8, asa25, ut 15

If anyone knows if there's a reliable lab out there that could still develope this, that would be terrific.

Thanks.

Some foundfootage for a festival

Remarkable that Andec doesn't refer to super8.nl

It is past 1'april but isn't the story just made up. A bit like an urban legend. (= broodje aap) or a troll.

People film their own escape were they run the risc (supposedly) of being shot on site or after summary court? How many people in DDR did own (a western build) Super-8 camera. These would have been of the
rich elite people there. Why flee then?

And the films they shot were intercepted but the people themselves not.
Real Super-8 fans these Vopos (VolksPolizei). Or did they send them for processing to OrWo Berlin after they reached the West?

Now check here to see if there is any escape film amongst the examples:
http://www.supersens.nl/supersens/paginas/cinema.html

[Angus]

Those Kahl listings are B&W.
Aren't we talking about the old cold-process OrwoChrom colour films?

[jpolzfuss]

Those Kahl listings are B&W.
Aren't we talking about the old cold-process OrwoChrom colour films?

Please take a closer look at the Kahl listing!!!! Only the first one is b&w,the other ones are COLOUR! And I only mentioned the b&w because the type could have been mistyped!