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Pentaflex 8

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Have any of you lot ever come accross a pentaflex 8 before?
Just purchased one and am real excited to get my mits on it!
I think its the only sub-16mm camera with a revolving mirror reflex viewfinder system, though correct me if I'm wrong- and its regular8 magazine loading!
Its supposed to have had an unparalleled viewfinder (there had to be a reason ;-) )
Had a set of 4 Zeiss primes and a zoom with a PL style breech bayonet mount
Weighs in at a hefty 2Kg though :-(
Anyway, theres a German manual on the uploads ftp page so I guess someone has one or has knowledge of them. I'd love an English version if anyone has one? And if anyone has spare lenses/magazines drop me a line- mines coming with a 12.5mm f2 standard.

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Sparky wrote:I think its the only sub-16mm camera with a revolving mirror reflex viewfinder system, though correct me if I'm wrong
Along with the Beaulieu 4008 (etc) and Fuji ZC1000, right? :D
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I said revolving ;-) I don't know what system the ZC1000 uses, but don't all the other mirror reflex cameras use the guilotine system? Would be interested to find out more though.

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Sparky wrote:I said revolving ;-)
:idea: my bad :?
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OK, not a lot of takers first time round, but now it arrived and I have a few pics to show!

Sorry for the bump but I am really excited about this find and hope a few might like to know more. Here is the beast, dwarfing another favourite- the Leicina 8S:


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Its a monster! And very ugly- reminds me a little of a 1950's caravan- ;-)

I think I may have answered my own question I posted here:

viewtopic.php?t=7220&highlight=viewfinder

Heres the Pentaflex VF:

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and to compare using the exact same camera settings, the VF of the Leicina 8S which I consider excellent for a R8 camera:

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Quite a great VF- its so bright and big because of the mirror- I have yet to get a Camex (but its probably the only other R8 camera I'll try) but I have a beaulieu 2008 which I guess has a similar VF to the MR8, and there is simply no comparison. This thing is really sharp and easy to focus.

Heres an attempt to show the mirror:

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Its just like a miniature version of an Arri or Mitchell!

And here the beautiful military spec cartridge:

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and not forgeting the Zeiss Pentovar lens:

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note the cut-off angle on the rear element to clear the mirror!

There are a few more pics starting here http://www.filmshooting.com/scripts/gal ... as?page=14
and I will scan the English manual that came with it to the ftp site.

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That camera is a very worthy collectible..now tell me, can you load regular 8 film in it or is it some wierd variant? Looks normal but what a monster cartridge...if you see another, let me know, I would like it for my website.

keep me posted - I like this post very much.

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OK, just spent my breakfast sacnning in the manual (all 48 pages of it!!)

You can find it here:

ftp://ftp.filmshooting.com/upload/manuals/Pentaflex 8 Manual English.zip

Sorry its rather large at 15MB- I might try to condense it into a pdf later.

Check it out for such gems as the Pentaflex Compendium:

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:)

Oh, yes its standard regular8 (!?!) loading on standard spools- the idea being that you only have to load the film once- and flip the cart over at the end of the first side- a great timesaving for your regular8 feature or studio shoot :wink:

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Sparky wrote:
Its a monster! And very ugly- reminds me a little of a 1950's caravan- ;-)
:roll: Its a fifties monster! :roll:

But what a fine example of good craftmanship in those days! Thank you very much for sharing this with us. Do you have any plans to actualy shoot something with this awesome monster?

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I have Pentaflex 8 camera and use it with Fomapan R D8 film.
I think it is a very good camera and has very good lens. I use it very often with Flektogon 2/5,5 mm.
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super8man wrote:
...if you see another, let me know, I would like it for my website.
will do- actually I have a second one on its way from Poland with the 12.5mm lens. Its supposed to be in excellent condition unlike this one that looks like a child borrowed his dads monkey wrench to fix it :cry: Need to have a look inside anyway so its not so bad and it was cheap.

I guess they must be pretty plentiful in Poland but have yet to see one on Polish ebay. Perhaps you , Trepang, can become our dealer :wink: I would very much like one of those beautiful looking 5.5s for it!

And Fred- of course I will exercise the beast :wink: - its not just for playing with! I have a few rolls of K25 in the fridge and some of them definitely have its name on.

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Sparky wrote:OK, just spent my breakfast sacnning in the manual (all 48 pages of it!!)

You can find it here:

ftp://ftp.filmshooting.com/upload/manuals/Pentaflex 8 Manual English.zip

Sorry its rather large at 15MB- I might try to condense it into a pdf later.

Check it out for such gems as the Pentaflex Compendium:

Image

:)

Oh, yes its standard regular8 (!?!) loading on standard spools- the idea being that you only have to load the film once- and flip the cart over at the end of the first side- a great timesaving for your regular8 feature or studio shoot :wink:

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Thank you.
I cannot find that manual...
Any help will be highly appreciated!
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Great find, Sparky.

However I cannot open any of your image links. And yes, I am signed in.

Regards,

NK

[quote="Sparky"]OK, not a lot of takers first time round, but now it arrived and I have a few pics to show!

Sorry for the bump but I am really excited about this find and hope a few might like to know more. Here is the beast, dwarfing another favourite- the Leicina 8S:


Image

Its a monster! And very ugly- reminds me a little of a 1950's caravan- ;-)

I think I may have answered my own question I posted here:

viewtopic.php?t=7220&highlight=viewfinder

Heres the Pentaflex VF:

Image

and to compare using the exact same camera settings, the VF of the Leicina 8S which I consider excellent for a R8 camera:

Image

Quite a great VF- its so bright and big because of the mirror- I have yet to get a Camex (but its probably the only other R8 camera I'll try) but I have a beaulieu 2008 which I guess has a similar VF to the MR8, and there is simply no comparison. This thing is really sharp and easy to focus.

Heres an attempt to show the mirror:

Image
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