I'd like to say that there is, when I look at the sky in the middle of the day and really analyse the texture of what Im seeing, I see the image is made out of something that resembles grain.
ok, let me rephrase, i'm not saying that the world is a phong shaded pool ball; there's no layer of grain in front of reality, and if there's grain in reality already why would you need to add more to create a realistic image? better? ;-)
I was a bit tired when I wrote that yesterday so Ill clear things out now.
Youre right Mattias, grain does not actuallyexist in reality. However eyes have limitations, and to me what I see is reality (even though what we see can easily be fooled) and this reality seems to be comprimised due to the limitations of eyes. It is this limitation that appears to resemble grain in my opinion.
and if there's grain in reality already why would you need to add more to create a realistic image? better?
I think reality appears grainy, but its not in reality. By adding grain to an image I think it helps reality to appear on screen.
This is all just a little theory I have, so dont take it too
seriously, Mattias!
sorry, but i'm gonna take it dead seriously. :-) it's interesting and if you said that our perception of reality is grainy i'd tend to agree. i think film grain makes the images more similar to our memories, which is why it works well for stories. video looks more like reality thus more like you're actually there. my only argument to support this, that it's not just because we're used to thinking this way from cinema/tv, is that 35mm looks more "real" than 16mm, and super 8 is often referred to as dreamlike.
Ok how about this; People remember events that they have experianced, if our perception includes grain, then we remember a grainy past...Since movies are generally accepted as taking place in the past, then thats another step away from reality. Now the two resemble each other, film and our grainy perception of reality.
he calls it eye-brain combination, but i'd say it's 99% brain. the number of image sensors in the eye is much much lower. you can see this very well if you're watching a film and freeze the frame. the moving image can look sharper than reality but the still always looks blurry, even on 35mm. some would say this is the random grain at play, but i'm pretty sure it's the brain again, using the same magic as when we watch reality and integrate sharpness and detail over time.
Yes. That explains why animals are often not reacting at all on human made pictures, moving or not. Their brain does not make a recognizable picture from it. (in most cases)
Ah! That brain of us is an amazing thing (at least mine is :lol: )
Fred.
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http://www.super-8.be
about film transfering:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_k0IKckACujwT_fZHN6jlg