MovieStuff wrote:Mitch Perkins wrote:MovieStuff wrote:
I think the validation they get is anytime they are mentioned in the media at all.
Gosh everything would be better if these annoying Arabs would just sit back and let us demarcate their borders and prop up brutal regimes for maximum unrest so we could get the oil cheap and keep driving around to the mall or just y'know, nowhere in particular. Anything but just don't ask me to think about what's actually going on or to change my lifestyle.
Ah, the good old days...y'know, the
crusades!
Mitch
I never said anything about Arabs, Mitch.
Oh good. Just checking.
MovieStuff wrote: The Oklahoma City bombing was also a terrorist act and, like all terrorist acts, was a ploy to get attention on a world stage through the use of violence. I am against any sort of violence that is uncalled for, whether by them or us.
"uncalled for" is perspective-dependant.
"shock and awe" is a ploy to get attention on a world stage through the use of violence.
Jesse James - hero or terrorist?
Who coined the term "terrorist" anyhow?
MovieStuff wrote:But while I do not condone our present government nor our presence or actions in the mideast, the idea that the U.S. gets all its oil from the Saudis is a well worn myth often used to prop up weak political arguments. In reality, EIA figures show that Saudi oil represents only 12% of our import source. The largest single source of our oil (about 18+%) actually comes from Canada. Canada also has the second largest oil reserves on the planet, over 75% more than Kuwait, and second only to the Saudis. I don't see the U.S. demarcating your borders and propping up your government, just to get better prices at the pump here which, considering Canada has an estimated 99% dependency on the US market, would be easier to do than waging war half way around the world.
Whatever - it's not just the US [don't flatter yourself]; it's the west - it's not just oil; it's access to a vast potential market - which worldview will dominate...all of it. The so-called "terrorists" have the least power and the most to lose.
MovieStuff wrote:I used to think that what was going on in the Mideast was about oil. Now I believe it is a war based on opposing religious fundamentalists, here and there. Frankly I find that's even scarier because, unlike oil, you can't buy someone out of a belief.
Roger
Nor can you bomb them out of it. OTOH, it's pretty clear the west is run by corporations, which don't believe in anything but cash - if they can whip up support for their agenda [getting more cash] by appealing to right-wing religious nutters, then so be it. As long as capitalism runs un-checked in the west, we'll have outlaws fighting the good fight against it. Now, if we could just have some
reasonable capitalism, then who knows...
Mitch